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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-04 11:32

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/movie ... ?_r=1&8dpc
The film is food porn. (Seriously, don’t come hungry.)

...... in many ways the film (...) is built as the chick flick to end all chick flicks: Ms. Ephron dishing out romance the way her fans like it, Ms. Streep in another bravura performance, mouthwatering food, an uplifting theme, bits of “Sex and the City” Manhattan.
If they could substitute the SATC Manhattan with South of France countryside, I would more excited.


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Post by Jun » 2009-08-04 13:09

I'm guessing Ephron did not include her (Julia Child's) stint as a spy for the allies in WWII France.

(A lot of people seemed to have espionage on their resumes back in the days...)
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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-04 14:00

come on, it is the WWII. everyone did a bit espionage here and there. :mrgreen:
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Post by buzz » 2009-08-04 20:54

Julia Child是在亚洲为盟军服务的。 去法国是二战以后的事情, 那时她已经离开情报机构,她先生是外交官。[祖艺也是先生是外交官而去的香港。]

前两天,纽约时报里有一篇对Nora Ephron的采访, 最后一个是经典的最后一餐吃什么的问题。
Q: What would your last meal be, if you got executed for killing a moody actor?
A: A hot dog from Nate ’n Al’s delicatessen in Beverly Hills.


对一个纽约人说她最后晚餐想吃热狗,但不是coney island hot dog,却是西海岸的一家小店里的热狗。hmm, 我总觉得老太太对被编排成谋杀犯很不高兴。:razz:

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Post by karen » 2009-08-04 21:06

What? Julie had an affair after the book got published? Now that's a juicy piece of gossip. :-D
(although there is no mention of an affair she had after the publication of the book).
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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-04 21:28

I had no idea either :mrgreen: Guess it is just hard to associate Julia Child and female sexuality. I can't believe the movie actually has sex scene.
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Post by buzz » 2009-08-05 0:37

julie powell's next book will come out later this year. it is about how she mastered the art of butchery. the title is "Cleaving: A Story of Marriage, Meat, and Obsession". when i read the news. i told myself: man, she is definitely not type of woman one wants to mess up with. :razz:

check out a video: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/au ... y-marriage

she chopped up a whole lamb into pieces. it's quite fascinating.


from several old episodes i had watched, i found julia child had great sense of humor. a very likable woman indeed.

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Post by karen » 2009-08-05 8:07

Knowing wrote:I had no idea either :mrgreen: Guess it is just hard to associate Julia Child and female sexuality. I can't believe the movie actually has sex scene.
I know! It's so weird to think that Julia Child had wild afternoon romps. Ehhh....

Raising your own chicken/buying half a cow/butchering your own meat is all the rage amount foodies these days. As NYTimes puts it, it's all street cred for extreme foodies. :-D
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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-05 8:30

I know. apparently there is this new thing, part of slow food movement. Foodies will get together at a farm or someone's big house in brooklyn, butcher a cow and slow cook it and share the meal. Almost sounds like a secret ritual.
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Post by tiffany » 2009-08-05 8:39

我一直不明白热狗有什么好吃的,不就是面包夹香肠么
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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-05 8:41

我拒绝吃热狗和汉堡包。肉就够可疑的,外面那块白面包更加是看上去白胖咬下去烂泥一样。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 10:37

我也是.
我分析过, 我不爱吃那个面包, 不爱吃那个肉, 不爱吃那个奶酪, 不爱吃里面的西红柿和生菜和酸黄瓜. 有什么可吃的地方呢.

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Post by buzz » 2009-08-05 11:06

厄,不能拿麦当劳,汉堡王的汉堡来说事。 如果面包是刚出炉的brioche, 西红柿是多汁的heirloom tomato,生菜叶子是地里刚掰下来的,恰到好处地在冰水里过了一下, 牛肉饼是七分瘦三分肥的新鲜小牛颈肉,烤得7成熟,再有一个长得像antonio banderas的厨子做给你吃,难道小K,豪情同学,你们还会拒绝,还会说不好吃? 我不相信。

不过,我也觉得热狗是没啥好吃的。

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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 12:09

当然吃过高级美国馆子的, 不止一次, 就是不喜欢.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-05 12:27

我吃过几次挺好吃的汉堡,都不是在高级馆子,就是专做汉堡的小店。还有 sam's chowder 的鱼汉堡,好吃!半月湾的同学别忘了去试一下。
热狗,我猜面包和香肠好的话也能好吃吧,大概就跟咱们对煎饼果子的感情似的?
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Post by silkworm » 2009-08-05 12:29

这个热狗里面更多的是sentimental reason吧?就象一个天津人想念狗不理包子煎饼果子、一个广东人想念肠粉虾饺……

我一直记得好多年前Survivor那个reality show刚出来的时候,里面有个老头儿在岛上精神会餐,最想吃一个hard-salami sandwiches。我之前不懂这是什么,后来专门吃了一次。 :-)

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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 12:31

我相信. 也许以后我们宝宝也会惦记热狗汉堡的. 不过我相信他也会惦记叉烧包和鱼片粥.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-05 12:35

我现在就挺想来个煎饼果子的。 :cool023:
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 12:37

我觉得那得是寒风凛冽的早晨.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-05 12:42

你这个“寒风凛冽的早晨”简直把我带回少年时代,嗯,我抱怨一下,昨天到三番吃了顿不好吃的法国菜,还挺长时间,搞挺晚的。又困又累,不好吃还吃得挺多。今天就没吃早饭,吃中饭还不到点儿,加上现在的经济形势,也许我可以想象自己在一个寒风凛冽的早晨。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 13:08

我在吃带的凉面.小美的方子.
你昨天吃哪里了, 我要打入黑名单.
今晚打算吃SUSHI.

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Post by dropby » 2009-08-05 13:47

我昨天第一天上班, 忘了带饭, 要早走接宝宝又不好意思出去吃, 找同事要了碗方便面. 回家做饭做了一半才意识到我已经饿晕了.

没出息地说, 我还是更喜欢在家带宝宝, 需要重新认识自己是不是更适合做家庭妇女.

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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-05 14:02

那你就在家再带一阵呗。我们公司一女partner 头一个孩子带了四年才回来上班。不过第二个孩子她好象新鲜头过去了,挺到最后一秒没休假,生完没几天就回来上班了。
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Post by silkworm » 2009-08-05 14:03

第一天上班当然还有点震荡,没太习惯,慢慢来。

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Post by dropby » 2009-08-05 14:05

我现在回家也没活干了, 宝宝第一天在幼儿园就表现特好, 吃得多, 睡得香, 也不怎么哭. 所以我只有老实挣托儿费了.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-05 15:54

小情要去哪儿吃 sushi?
我昨天去的是 cote sud 也是先在本地电视台上看到推荐的,老板是个第一代法国移民,口音明显。说自己做的都是家乡家常菜,nothing fancy,顾客评论说是家常、味道实在地道。我听了觉得很值得一去。(现在这些店都把这些节目嵌在自己的网页上。节目是去年的,但网页上上个月我看还没有呢。)昨天我们去就5、6桌客人,都给安排在二楼的玻璃封上的二楼凉台上。服务很慢,虽然态度很好。看街景不错。他们声称自己是 castro district 里唯一一家法国餐馆。位置是很可爱。公平地说他的鹅肝酱还行,功封鸭腿是我到目前为止吃到的最好的。甜品很正宗。剩下的牛排、羊排、电视里吃客推荐的 cassoulet 都不咋地。cassoulet 是用 le creuset 的彩色小铸铁锅一份一锅炖出来的,除此之外没有什么可夸奖的地方。整个经验感觉很 dull,乏善可陈。

因为是在 castro district 周围大环境相当可爱。但是我们上次出门路过三藩,想吃中饭,就在 cote sud 街对面吃的一个四不像日本饭相比好多了。环境时尚,吃的不能算地道,大概得算 fusion ,但是味道相当精致,最 cute 的是黑墙上挂的都是本地艺术家画的油画,明码标价代售,我们头顶上那幅是300块。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 16:00

SUSHI TOMI

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-05 16:01

嗯,到目前为止我还是最喜欢那里的刺身。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 16:03

但我们家只有我吃生鱼. 也挺没劲的. 同事一大群吃素的. 现在好象吃素很时髦.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-05 16:05

下次,咱俩一起去好了。我也找不到人一起去。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-05 16:06

好啊. 可以吃很贵的省的某人看到了心疼还觉得不明白为啥值得这价钱的.

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Post by dropby » 2009-08-05 16:54

说得我想吃鱼生了. 我上次all you can eat吃完了一天都不舒服本来以为从此就可以戒了.

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Post by karen » 2009-08-05 22:31

剩下的牛排、羊排、电视里吃客推荐的 cassoulet 都不咋地。cassoulet 是用 le creuset 的彩色小铸铁锅一份一锅炖出来的,除此之外没有什么可夸奖的地方。整个经验感觉很 dull,乏善可陈。
在加州的法国馆子给人就是这样,我觉得跟气候有关。 这儿就不适合吃口味重的法国菜。
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Post by qinger » 2009-08-05 23:30

我再一次觉得笑嘻嘻腐败,居然weekday进城吃法国菜。
可怜我今天想吃个印度buffet都被某人否决,要求延到周末。天一冷我就想吃印度菜。
现在偶是胡军的扇子。

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-06 0:04

karen,北加州这边也有好的法国馆子。我吃到过跟在法国同事带去蒙马特吃的一样地道的餐馆,尤其是三藩地区法国餐馆特别密集,所以期待值提得很高。
qinger 哪天吃都一样的。我们这是请客的人挑的日子。大家过得都差不多嘛。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-06 0:05

我吃到过跟在法国同事带去蒙马特吃的一样地道的餐馆
哪里?

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-06 0:11

bistro jeanty 啊。就是远点。我不是特别喜欢油腻嘛,这个餐馆对我胃口,头盘的牛骨髓和鹅肝酱真是 right to the point。另外我在法国吃的感觉是食物经常 heavy 到我吃不下,这个餐馆也给我这个感觉。相信还有很多这样的馆子。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-06 0:18

我想吃新鲜蜗牛, 索性贪得无厌地进一步要求.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-06 0:26

哦,对了,cote sud 的蜗牛很差劲,罐头的,干瘪瘪的。还不如我在苏州园区吃到的好。我对新鲜蜗牛不抱很大希望,吃到的话跟你讲一声好了。
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Post by qinger » 2009-08-06 1:37

笑嘻嘻我是羡慕你现在的自由。
我们weekday不太可能开车去远一点的地方吃饭,因为那样回家就会太晚,宝宝睡太晚第二天很难叫起来上幼儿园的。。。
而我今天想吃的印度buffet就在某人认为比较远的范围。其实他是讨厌吃印度菜,所以故意拖延。说起来我很难找到爱吃印度菜的同好,印度薄饼卷咖喱羊肉配印度酸奶,饭后再来份芒果冰激凌,还是很爽的。可是我的女朋友也没人爱吃印度菜。
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-06 11:03

在我这边是吧, 你过来和我一起午饭?

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2009-08-06 11:50

我只喜欢在除了夏天之外的季节吃印度饭,等夏天过了叫上我吧。
Tomatina 的Piadine 特别适合夏天吃。刚从烤箱里出来的暖和的大饼,上面是凉色拉。稍微有点酸。很好吃。你们试过没有?
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-06 12:27

宝宝幼儿园现在有周五晚餐服务, 就是交点钱带孩子到9点包饭. 某人很兴奋地说我们可以出去吃大餐. 被我一个大白眼, 到9点能到哪里去, 不如周末送出去一天还能放风.

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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-06 12:29

你们有孩子的别老说的那么悲惨吓唬我们, 好象完全没有人身自由一样。 :mrgreen: karen 不是也照常出门看电影吃晚饭喝酒嘛。你们不过是舍不得把孩子放家自己出去而已
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Post by 豪情 » 2009-08-06 13:04

有保母当然可以. 否则你以为可以把小宝宝一人留在家里? :worthy: TRINEY可以我知道.

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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-06 13:17

当然是请babysitter 啊
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Post by qinger » 2009-08-06 13:35

每个周五都有? 太幸福了。我家宝宝以前的幼儿园一个月一次,还都被我miss了。
不过到九点干不了什么,十点比较理想。
小k, 找到合适的babysitter不容易。
今天有家印度餐馆来公司食堂卖饭,满足了我对印度饭的渴望。可惜水准一般。
现在偶是胡军的扇子。

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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-06 13:45

你们都是能干人儿, 那么多大事儿一桩桩都办了,真想每周出门吃次晚饭, 把找babysitter 当个大事办,早就找好了。找个每周来一次两次的babysitter不见的比找daycare 费事。
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Post by qinger » 2009-08-06 13:49

可是宝宝不愿意跟个陌生人呆一起让爸爸妈妈出去。这就是为什么幼儿园本身的PNO更受家长欢迎的缘故。
当然如果真要这么做多试几次后会好些,就是第一次比较难。
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Post by Knowing » 2009-08-06 13:53

babysitter 来几次跟宝宝就熟了。头两次哭哭怕啥。 :mrgreen: 刚上幼儿圆不是都哭嘛。
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