年轻的菲利普亲王

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年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by CAVA » 2011-06-05 4:39

菲利普亲王下星期庆祝九十岁生日,今天Sunday Times上的一篇书评挺有意思。以前恍惚听说过菲利普亲王是欧洲王室的“穷亲戚”,没想到其童年生活如此颠沛流离。乔治六世夫妇居然答允身为第一继承人的女儿嫁给这位一文不名、脾气孤癖的军官,一见钟情的魔力不可低估啊 :mrgreen:

书评是Lynn Barber写的,即An Education的原作者。

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Duke of Hazard
Lynn Barber

Given what a rackety childhood Prince Philip had, it’s astonishing that he hasn’t spent half his life in therapy. The eternal poor relation, penniless, homeless, effectively parentless, he was bundled from relative to relative, country to country, throughout his teens, and rarely knew in advance where he would be spending the school holidays. His mother was in an asylum, his father was drifting round the Riviera with his mistress; the nearest Philip had to a fixed address was his grandmother’s apartment at Kensington Palace, though he seldom stayed there.

Despite being Prince Philip of Greece, he had no Greek blood — it was just an accident of history that his Danish grandfather had been invited to become King of Greece.

Philip’s father, Prince Andrea, was the fourth son, so never likely to become king. He served as a cavalry officer in the Greek army but managed to be absent from most of the Turkish war. He is the Macavity of this story, mysteriously not there whenever important events were afoot.

Everyone thought Philip’s mother, Princess Alice of Battenberg, was mad to have married Andrea, but it was a love match at the beginning. She was a great beauty and, though deaf from birth, was so good at lip-reading that many people never suspected it. She had four daughters and then a long gap before finally producing the necessary son, Philip, on the dining-room table at Mon Repos, the family’s regency villa in Corfu, in 1921. But 18 months later, when Ataturk defeated the Greek army, Andrea was court-martialled, and banished into exile. The family fled to Paris, eventually settling in a villa in St Cloud.

The years at St Cloud were probably the most stable period of Philip’s childhood. He went to the American school where his best friends were the sons of the Chinese ambassador (did he call them “slitty eyes”?) and he learnt to play baseball before he learnt cricket. But then his mother started going mad. She had strange mood swings and religious fervour; she barely ate and took to lying on the floor in order to develop “the power conveyed to her from above”; she believed she was the bride of Christ but also “physically involved” with other religious leaders such as Buddha. She was sent to a psychoanalyst who asked his friend Sigmund Freud for advice. He recommended “an exposure of the gonads to X-rays in order to accelerate the menopause”. Apparently, this worked for a while, but then she became erratic again and in May 1930 she was sedated and bundled off to an asylum on Lake Constance. She had some contact with her son for the first two years then none at all for the next five.

Prince Andrea closed the house in St Cloud, went off to live with a mistress on the Riviera and — though never divorced — seldom saw his wife again. All four of Philip’s sisters quickly married German aristocrats, and Philip was sent to live with his maternal grandmother at Kensington Palace, and then with his uncle Georgie, the Marquess of Milford Haven, whose son David became his best friend.

Philip was basically living on charity and he learnt the habits of thrift, travelling by bus, and pressing his trousers under the mattress at night. But from time to time he would be summoned to great family events, weddings or funerals, where he would stay in grand palaces or schlosses with half the crowned heads (or deposed heads) of Europe. Then it was back to cold showers and meagre rations, first at Cheam then at Gordonstoun schools. By the time he left, in 1939, his mother had recovered and he spent his last school holiday staying with her in Athens, before going to Dartmouth Naval College as a cadet. The royal family visited Dartmouth while he was there, and he evidently made a great impression on the 13-year-old Princess Elizabeth.

Philip’s situation at the outbreak of war was extremely awkward. He was still “Prince Philip of Greece” and Greece was a neutral country; moreover, his sisters were in Germany, married to leading Nazis. His mother urged him to sit out the war with her in Athens, where she was going round dressed as a nun, setting up soup kitchens and orphanages, but Philip was eager to see action in the Royal Navy. “Uncle Dickie” Mountbatten pulled strings to keep him out of harm’s way, escorting troopships round Australia, India and South Africa, but when Greece joined the allies in 1940, Philip was able to join the Mediterranean fleet, and was mentioned in dispatches.

He was invited to spend Christmas 1943 at Windsor Castle and accepted because — as usual — he had “nowhere particular to go”. Princess Elizabeth was now 17, and her governess Crawfie reported that she was pink with excitement at the prospect of seeing him — she had already decided that Philip was “the one”. He watched her act in the royal pantomime, Aladdin, and spent several jolly evenings playing charades and dancing to the gramophone. He was invited to Windsor again in July, and Chips Channon was soon telling his diary: “I do believe that a marriage may well be arranged one day between Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip of Greece.”

In many ways, Philip was a most unsuitable suitor. His only income was his naval pay of about £300 a year, and he barely seemed to own any clothes. He was not yet as irascible as he became later but, according to Harold Nicolson, the king and queen were initially unkeen because “they felt he was rough, ill mannered, uneducated and would probably not be faithful”. But he was gorgeously handsome and Princess Elizabeth was obviously in love. It was less obvious that he was, but then as a friend remarked, “Affection is not his natural currency.”

In March 1947, Philip renounced his Greek title and claim to the Greek throne and took British citizenship. In July his engagement to Princess Elizabeth was announced, to general public satisfaction. Their wedding, in November 1947, brought one of the biggest gatherings of royalty that century, though the Duke and Duchess of Windsor were not invited, nor were Philip’s German sisters. The early years of marriage seem to have been blissfully happy, and the princess enjoyed her new role as a naval wife. He had high hopes of soon being promoted to commander — but the early death of the king in 1952 meant that his naval career came to an abrupt end. The Queen seemed to make the transition easily, telling a friend, “I have lost all my timidity somehow”, but he went into a monumental sulk, complaining that he was being treated like an amoeba. Tales of his tetchiness and rudeness began to circulate, and Harold Macmillan noted: “I fear this young man is going to be as big a bore as Prince Albert and as great a trouble.”

I wonder if Prince Philip will appreciate what an invaluable 90th birthday present Philip Eade has given him by writing this book? It unveils no new sensations (Eade discusses the various women who were supposed to have been Philip’s girlfriends and concludes that none was serious), but by concentrating on the extreme oddity of his childhood, he makes the prince’s character more explicable and therefore more sympathetic. And, even though we know the ending, the narrative is as suspenseful as any thriller. Truly, an excellent read.

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 火星狗 » 2011-06-05 9:57

嗯,灰男孩,又穷又身世坎坷还脾气坏(这一项不是标配),但是很美丽,被公主一见钟情,于是改变了命运~~这才是真童话啊,可惜不对群众的胃口。 :-D

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Post by CAVA » 2011-06-05 10:23

我这个群众还蛮喜闻乐见的,男主角一则英俊,二则经常讲些政治不正确、让周围人不知如何是好的笑话。这个灰男孩身世还不错,不然在1940年代怎么会被接受嘛,又不是演韩剧 :mrgreen:

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Post by silkworm » 2011-06-05 14:23

觉得女王一家,还就是她最靠谱,她老妈其次。她老爸被匆匆推上台,她妹妹一辈子折腾,她先生身世怪可怜的,不会爱,对孩子们也冷冷的。
这个书评里写的那个不知道下一个假期在那里度过,真够让人心酸的。

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Post by Knowing » 2011-06-05 14:50

按他们那代标准,飞利浦亲王不算特别冷淡的父亲。老头挺逗的,我也喜欢他说的笑话。英俊而有幽默感,不拘礼节,所以年轻公主一下就倾心。另外加一句,真是宁要讨饭娘不要做官爹,他爹好冷淡!
Nevertheless, she persisted.

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Post by silkworm » 2011-06-05 15:02

那个蒙巴顿叔叔(舅舅?)在王室一群亲戚中还真挺活跃的。

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Post by CAVA » 2011-06-05 15:34

silkworm wrote:觉得女王一家,还就是她最靠谱,她老妈其次。她老爸被匆匆推上台,她妹妹一辈子折腾,她先生身世怪可怜的,不会爱,对孩子们也冷冷的。
这个书评里写的那个不知道下一个假期在那里度过,真够让人心酸的。
就是,国王的孙子基本需求也不过和平常孩子一样,没人照看真可怜。女王的妈妈是个很了不起的人物,个性坚强乐观,懂得找乐子,虽然被辛普森夫人嫌不够时髦 :mrgreen:

蒙巴顿的姐姐是菲利普亲王的母亲,但他本人的族谱我一看就晕了,和谁都是亲戚!

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Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-05 22:31

PRINCE ALBERT也是个有身世没身家的穷王子. 做王夫满合适的.
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Post by miumiu » 2011-06-06 10:43

菲利普亲王年轻的时候可真是帅啊,他跟女王的几个子女没有一个及的上父母的,90岁了照样腰板笔挺 - 外貌协会成员羞愧的说

接上面CAVA的话茬,我看这些王室成员的关系都是这么说的:从父亲这边算是多少层的表亲,从母亲这边算又是多少层的表亲。欧洲王室们整个就是一个大家族。

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Post by 朝露 » 2011-06-07 5:55

也来赞声年轻帅哥 :mrgreen: 可惜,老了后残了,不管风度还是长相

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by dancelord » 2011-06-09 8:17

我总是好奇师太书中映射娶了女王后有不少情人的是不是他?这本书里有无提到?

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Post by miumiu » 2011-06-09 9:49

今晚9点BBC1有一小时的关于他的纪录片,他很少接受单独采访所以应该是挺难得的机会。

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Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-09 10:38

dancelord wrote:我总是好奇师太书中映射娶了女王后有不少情人的是不是他?这本书里有无提到?
应该是吧. 不是CHARLES婚前他告诉儿子只要生了继承人随便怎么找情人都行嘛.
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Post by Knowing » 2011-06-09 16:36

miumiu wrote:今晚9点BBC1有一小时的关于他的纪录片,他很少接受单独采访所以应该是挺难得的机会。
纪录片真好看!他年轻时真帅,光看照片还看不出来身姿多挺拔。即使是现在,腰杆笔挺脑子清楚反应快,几次在女记者问软性问题的时候抢白的她噎住,好笑。他真不象九十岁,比人家七十岁差不多。
女王年轻时真漂亮。好多开怀大笑的镜头,两人很有默契。连查尔斯,小时候也挺q的一个胖宝宝....长大怎么那么难看。
他童年的悲惨经历,纪录片里轻描淡写。他本人也是老派人,get on with life, make no fuss, 说起来一点没有难过的样子。
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Post by CAVA » 2011-06-10 1:58

蒙巴顿表妹不是说了么,他从前就不愿意提小时候的事情,也是自我保护的一种方式。这个访谈够艰难的,提问者说的比被访问者多,被那些can't you imagine, can't you guess噎得够呛。一则他是老派人,很不愿意在人前自我表现,自我分析,对媒体(被他称为professional intruder)当然也有戒心;二则很实际,最喜欢说get on with it,无谓多讨论假设的问题,比如当初如果不从海军退役会如何如何。从其他人的评论中猜测,女王刚刚即位的一两年对他来说很艰难,根本找不到自己的位置,婚姻出现危机也是有可能的。

有几段很有意思。他担任WWF主席,通过创新途径拯救濒危动物,但收到的群众来信一大半唠叨某动物园的动物受到不公正对待,言语间听得出,这是个擅长抓重点的人,很不婆婆妈妈。还有被问起是不是希腊人,他说出生时是希腊国籍,其实是丹麦人。女主持问: how do you think of yourself now?他笑: I don't, I'm just here。笑得我。

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Post by Knowing » 2011-06-10 5:06

女记者比较烦人,问的那问题诱导性巨强,老想把话放到亲王嘴里,恨不得自己说一堆然后对方点个头。不过话又说回来,不问这问什么?这个节目本来就是溜须拍马美化形象的官方片,她也没有问棘手问题的余地. 老派人态度坚定碰上什么事情都死忍死忍,我们现代人有时觉得太寒,有时候也觉得佩服他们风度好。难怪他们集体看不上diana ,一点破事儿炸炸呼呼,不就是老公有情妇吗,忍忍就磨合了,英女王都忍下来了你忍不下来,教养何在?王子才一个情妇,王妃呢,一个又一个,还素质都那么低, 成天爆料。
他损bunny hugger 那段真逗! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2011-06-10 5:25

His incredible energy, remarkable good health and strong sense of public duty have seen Prince Philip through countless official engagements over the course of his 64-year marriage to our Queen. Yet it is the unashamedly politically incorrect comments he makes that have attracted the most attention over the years.
与英国女王结婚64年来,菲利普亲王过人的精力、健硕的身体以及强烈的公众责任感都伴随他走过无数正式场合。不过他最引人注目的却是在政治社交圈中的口无遮拦。


As the Prince celebrates his 90th birthday tomorrow, we pay tribute to what Philip himself described as ‘Dontopedalogy . . . the science of opening your mouth and putting your foot in it, a science which I have practised for a good many years . . .’
时值菲利普亲王的90岁生日,我们精选了他的“雷人语录”向他的“口不择言”哲学致敬。他自己将其解释为“一门我实践了多年的科学,它需要你张开你的嘴巴、把你的脚放进去……”(沪江小编捂着肚子注:意思就是“臭嘴”么?灭哈哈!Dontopedalogy又被称为“foot-in-mouth disease”,也就是说话不经大脑的毛病啦~)


ON STATE VISITS
国事访问


‘You look like you’re ready for bed!’ To the President of Nigeria, who was wearing traditional robes.
对身着传统民族服装的尼日利亚总统说:你看起来像是要去上床睡觉的样子啊!


‘Do you still throw spears at each other?’ To Aboriginal leader William Brin during a visit to the Aboriginal Cultural Park in Queensland, 2002.
2002年访问昆士兰土著文化公园时,对土著部族领导人William Brin说:你们现在还会互相扔长矛不?


‘You managed not to get eaten then?’ To a British student who was trekking in Papua New Guinea, during an official visit in 1998.
1998年正式访问巴布亚新几内亚时,对一名在当地背包登山的英国学生说:所以你没让自己被这些人吃掉吧?


‘Aren’t most of you descended from pirates?’ To residents of the Cayman Islands in 1994.
1994年访问开曼群岛时对当地居民说:你们中间大多数人不都是海盗后代么?


ON EUROPE
在欧洲的访问


‘I would like to go to Russia very much — although the bastards murdered half my family.’ In 1967, when asked if he would like to visit the Soviet Union.
1967年当被问及是否想访问苏联时他回答:我是很想去俄罗斯——尽管那些狗杂种杀了我一半家里人。


‘Damn fool question!’ To a BBC journalist at a banquet at the Elysée Palace in Paris after she asked the Queen if she was enjoying her stay.
一次女王夫妇访问巴黎时在爱丽舍宫参加宴会,在场一名BBC记者问到女王是否喜欢这次旅程,亲王代答道:这是什么烂问题啊!


‘It’s a vast waste of space.’ To guests at the opening reception of a new £18 million British Embassy in Berlin in 2000.
2000年,耗资一千八百万英镑新建的英国驻柏林大使馆开幕仪式上,亲王对到场客人说:这真是对空间的巨大浪费。


‘You can’t have been here that long — you haven’t got a pot belly.’ To a British tourist he met during a tour of Hungarian capital Budapest in 1993.
1993年在匈牙利首都布达佩斯旅行时,他对一名英国游客说:你来的时间肯定不长——看你连啤酒肚都还没长出来。(暗讽匈牙利食物)


ON WOMEN
评价女人


‘British women can’t cook.’ Endearing himself to the Scottish Women’s Institute in 1961.
1961年参观苏格兰女子学院时跟对方客套说:英格兰女人根本煮不来饭!


‘You are a woman, aren’t you?’ To a Kenyan woman in 1984, after accepting a state gift.
1984年接受了对方的国家礼物后,对一名肯尼亚妇女说:你是女人是吧?


‘If it doesn’t fart or eat hay, she isn’t interested.’ On his daughter, Princess Anne.
评价自己不婚的女儿安妮公主:如果对方不放屁、不吃草,她是不会感兴趣的。(安妮公主出了名地爱马)


‘When a man opens the car door for his wife, it’s either a new car or a new wife.’
“如果一个男人为他的妻子开车门,那要么就是辆新车、要么就是个新老婆。”
Nevertheless, she persisted.

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Post by CAVA » 2011-06-10 5:33

Fiona Bruce平时还不错,这个节目里很紧张,有失水准。这些问题事先肯定得经过批准,节目播出前也审查过。

看了这个访问,我有点明白戴安娜去世时王室对其拥护者情绪的不理解,感觉是自家的私事,没必要对公众交代解释什么,何况是已经离异的儿媳妇。最后被逼到无奈才出来表态。葬礼时菲利普亲王陪两个孙子步行护灵,对孩子们并不是那么冷漠,从礼仪上讲他不需要跟着的。

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Post by CAVA » 2011-06-10 5:38

小K引的这些太好玩了 :f20: 有些笑话的确不太适宜当时的场合,象睡衣那条。

Daily Telegraph网站上有个短片不错,还有传记的节选,这段讲他早期的女朋友们。
Tall and athletic with the looks of a Viking god, Philip at 17 was already attractive to women. Aspasia’s daughter, Alexandra, described him as “very amusing, gay, full of life and energy and a tease.” He reminded her of “a huge, hungry dog; perhaps a friendly collie who never had a basket of his own and responded to every overture with eager tail-wagging.”


最后这句看着真可怜。
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Post by Knowing » 2011-06-10 6:34

他说安妮公主的话特搞笑。采访不怎么地,老片子的片段好看!女王年轻时穿的很对好看啊,宽袖窄肩的衬衫,细腰大摆裙系的高高的,端庄秀丽,帽子们很漂亮!制服控的说,他还在海军里穿制服帅死了,尤其是当船长的时候!两人在malta 散步跳舞的随军家属生活真甜蜜啊。女王结婚时的婚纱也比diana 的奶油蛋糕好看的多。
说起来andrew 和edward 是十年后生的,典型是闹过夫妻危机和好之后再生俩娃的情节。 :mrgreen:
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Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-10 10:46

我不大明白为啥他反复强调他觉得自己是丹麦人. 他父母都讲希腊语, 他到结婚前一直上希腊东正教教会. 他一直和母亲家的亲戚在一起, 是英国化的德国人. 如果说血缘, 英国女王也没多少英国血统. 他妈妈挺传奇的, 家世高贵的聋美人, 为爱结婚. 失望后转向宗教,

我和小K的感觉一样, Diana就是个戏剧皇后.
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by CAVA » 2011-06-10 11:55

倒没有反复强调,是说Greek national of Danish race,本来他们家从丹麦到希腊也没几代。他的父亲被希腊送上军事法庭,后又被放逐,直接造成早期的家庭悲剧,对希腊没太大好感也情有可原。

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by Knowing » 2011-06-10 12:24

hahaha, ‘I would like to go to Russia very much — although the bastards murdered half my family.’ In 1967, when asked if he would like to visit the Soviet Union.
Nevertheless, she persisted.

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-10 12:49

他母亲反而完全接受了希腊为母国.

不过我同意这都是个人选择, 正是所谓的adopted home country/town.
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by silkworm » 2011-06-10 14:55

说安妮公主那个太逗了!
老头儿其实是一个爱开玩笑的人儿。就是根本没有政治正确的概念。

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by dancelord » 2011-06-12 8:19

Knowing wrote:他说安妮公主的话特搞笑。采访不怎么地,老片子的片段好看!女王年轻时穿的很对好看啊,宽袖窄肩的衬衫,细腰大摆裙系的高高的,端庄秀丽,帽子们很漂亮!制服控的说,他还在海军里穿制服帅死了,尤其是当船长的时候!两人在malta 散步跳舞的随军家属生活真甜蜜啊。女王结婚时的婚纱也比diana 的奶油蛋糕好看的多。
说起来andrew 和edward 是十年后生的,典型是闹过夫妻危机和好之后再生俩娃的情节。 :mrgreen:

老片子的片段在哪看?多谢。。

我觉得靠谱的女王有了说话这么可乐的老公,生活才不致于一直端着吧。。。如果戴安娜也有点这种又刻薄又敏锐不靠谱的可爱,婚姻生活可能会感觉好点。

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by Knowing » 2011-06-12 8:34

就是那个菲利普亲王九十岁的bbc纪录片。
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by dancelord » 2011-06-13 7:33

Knowing wrote:女记者比较烦人,问的那问题诱导性巨强,老想把话放到亲王嘴里,恨不得自己说一堆然后对方点个头。不过话又说回来,不问这问什么?这个节目本来就是溜须拍马美化形象的官方片,她也没有问棘手问题的余地. 老派人态度坚定碰上什么事情都死忍死忍,我们现代人有时觉得太寒,有时候也觉得佩服他们风度好。难怪他们集体看不上diana ,一点破事儿炸炸呼呼,不就是老公有情妇吗,忍忍就磨合了,英女王都忍下来了你忍不下来,教养何在?王子才一个情妇,王妃呢,一个又一个,还素质都那么低, 成天爆料。
他损bunny hugger 那段真逗! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
为什么大家认为女王忍了?难道无人YY她也许也有情人?

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-13 10:23

就是有情人也要忍受丈夫出轨啊. 自己出轨的人不见得能忍受另一方出轨.
与其改变DIANA的性格, 不如大家各找各自合适的人. 要是王室一开始选的是CAMILLA这种类型应该就没事了. 真是看走眼了. :mrgreen:
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2011-06-13 12:07

到底是谁有情人?女王还是王夫?
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-13 12:14

王夫是比较确认的, 女王只是谣传.
青春美貌都是浮云, 区别是有的是美得不得了的浮云.
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by dancelord » 2011-06-16 5:07

豪情 wrote:就是有情人也要忍受丈夫出轨啊. 自己出轨的人不见得能忍受另一方出轨.
与其改变DIANA的性格, 不如大家各找各自合适的人. 要是王室一开始选的是CAMILLA这种类型应该就没事了. 真是看走眼了. :mrgreen:
王子没看走眼,据说他求过婚来着. Camilla考虑到自己不是处女估计王室接受很难, 还是嫁给别人了. 从她选的老公到朋友来看,其实都符合王室标准的,低调而维护王室. 无论是外表还是内涵, 都是她和查更相配来着.

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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by Knowing » 2011-06-16 10:04

说到处男处女,卡米拉倒是查尔斯的第一个女人。王子是求过两次婚,卡米拉拒绝了,只保证永远做随叫随到的朋友。原因有好几个。她知道王室对她不是处女不满意;不想过金鱼缸里的生活;她最喜欢的不是王子,是前男朋友风流倜倘女友众多的花心大罗卜Andrew Parker Bowles。王子没求着婚当海军去了,Andrew Parker Bowles从军队回来,听说前女友跟王子好上了,虚荣膨胀的又开始追她,她就很爽的跟Andrew Parker Bowles结婚了。王子很伤心了一阵,开始过花花公子的生活。卡米拉生完俩娃,王子的蒙巴顿叔叔出事之后,王子非常伤心,卡米拉安慰他,俩人又好上了,王子又求婚,卡米拉又拒绝了。卡米拉的丈夫是知道的。不过他们俩夫妻之间感情很好,互相不约束,都有情人。王子不断有女朋友,卡米拉经常帮他出主意什么的。看到戴安娜时跟他说,这个好,这个合适。估计是觉得清纯少女比较好弄。根据王子自己说,结婚时他是下决心要(肉体)忠实于妻子的。大概忠实了两三年?心嘛,一直都没离开过卡米拉。就把戴安娜搞疯了。
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2011-06-16 12:10

蒙巴顿叔叔出事是怎么回事儿?

也难怪黛安娜发疯,也就快是个孤女了,本来以为终于演绎了全球瞩目的现代版公主王子的旷世完美童话,结果结了婚赶着生完孩子发现原来自己才是爱情故事的超级傀儡大配角。娘家人丁稀疏靠不上,婆家又嫌她爱逢人就自曝家丑地抱怨。
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by Knowing » 2011-06-16 13:39

被爱尔兰独立军炸死的?好像。
戴安娜是挺可怜,也太不识相。到很后面,双方完全弄僵以后,女王把她叫去说,你是王妃,不会变的,只要不闹丑闻你们的婚姻维持好就行了。意思是你们各自找乐子,大面要维持,事实分居,王室继续给你特权也给你自由。她就蠢蠢的提条件,要王子和卡米拉断绝关系。女王委婉劝她不要介意王子的好朋友。戴安娜完全不理解不接受。
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 豪情 » 2011-06-16 18:42

欧洲好几百年的贵族传统确实是女的婚前要是处女, 结婚了大家OPEN MARRIAGE. 不知道DIANA是怎么回事. 她不是贵族家庭出来的么? 虽然没落些. 她姐姐SARAH是社交明星.
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by 唐唐的郁金香 » 2011-06-17 8:01

豪情 wrote:欧洲好几百年的贵族传统确实是女的婚前要是处女, 结婚了大家OPEN MARRIAGE. 不知道DIANA是怎么回事. 她不是贵族家庭出来的么? 虽然没落些. 她姐姐SARAH是社交明星.
所以Diana才是平民公主?不是说所以一夫一妻讲忠诚的那一套代表中产阶级吗? :-D :-D :-D
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by Knowing » 2011-06-17 8:11

所以贵族都不同情她,只好到群众堆里寻找同情啊。
别说戴安娜本来就是贵族,即使真正的平民kate 嫁进王家也得了封号变成贵族,这叫"抬旗"。
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Re: 年轻的菲利普亲王

Post by silkworm » 2011-06-17 15:03

几年前Julian Fellowes那本小说Snobs,全篇都是写中产阶级女子嫁入贵族家(其实还只是没落贵族),当事双方的种种不适。Downton Abbey里有一场晚餐桌上的戏,也是“我们的生活”、“你们的生活”之对比。所以为了轻松自如计,还是搞他们的门当户对得了,省得大家都难受。

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