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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 14:52

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'Tasteless and Offensive' New Yorker Cover Riles Obama Camp

By Perry Bacon Jr.
Sen. Barack Obama's campaign sharply rebuked the New Yorker magazine for its cover this week which displays Obama in a turban fist-bumping a gun-toting rendering of his wife in the magazine's attempt to mock right-wing Obama critics.

"The New Yorker may think, as one of their staff explained to us, that their cover is a satirical lampoon of the caricature Senator Obama's right-wing critics have tried to create. But most readers will see it as tasteless and offensive. And we agree" said Obama spokesman Bill Burton in a statement.

In a press conference on Sunday afternoon, the candidate had refused to comment about it, saying "I have no response to that" when asked by a reporter in San Diego.
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Post by Jun » 2008-07-14 14:55

As if anyone who read The New Yorker would believe the cartoon to be serious.


Frankly though, I don't it's funny or clever.
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Post by tiffany » 2008-07-14 14:58

那个女子是他老婆?
有次听npr应该是all things considered,说起来哦把马的老婆,说那么聪明成功的一个女性,作为竞选人的老婆上了电视也只能谈丝袜,不是不demeaning的。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 15:01

I do think it is borderline bad taste, like making fun of Mccain's age, it is ok for talkshow host but New Yorker cover? Still, I feel sad Obama Camp has to react so strongly against it.
tiffany wrote:那个女子是他老婆?
有次听npr应该是all things considered,说起来哦把马的老婆,说那么聪明成功的一个女性,作为竞选人的老婆上了电视也只能谈丝袜,不是不demeaning的。
无所谓拉,人民就这个水平,你想怎么地。
我觉得特demeaning的是CNN 把CINDY MCCAIN 和米雪相提并论,说她们都是成功的高权利的事业女性,因为CINDY 是企业总裁。我倒。要这么说,PARIS HILTON 和BRITNEY SPEARS 也是事业女性了。
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Post by tiffany » 2008-07-14 15:07

小甜甜若干年前还算borderline事业女性……
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Post by Jun » 2008-07-14 15:11

Bill Burton should have consulted with Jon Stewart before issuing the statement.
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-14 15:13

小甜甜为什么不能算事业女性?你非要跟人民大众划清界限哪能搞政治啊,那只能作学术。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 15:16

小甜甜怎么能算事业女性,撑死了算艺术家。作家都不能算事业女性. career 是指 professional or business career。俗称白领儿。小甜甜是白领儿么?
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Post by Jun » 2008-07-14 15:16

The NYer editor is on All Things Considered at the moment defending his decision to run the cover.

If you have to explain it, it ain't funny, buddy.

When I grow up, I want to have a career like Cindy McCain's. :p
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-07-14 15:19

作家都不能算事业女性. career 是指 professional or business career。
小K这个狠, 和博士才算受过教育有的一比, 打翻一船人.

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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 15:25

不是的,事业女性听起来好听,其实就是白领嘛。从事创造性行业的是自由职业艺术家。至于CINDY MCCAIN ,人家那是真正的上流社会蓝血老钱信托基金宝宝,说她是事业女性还是降低了她的社会地位捏。你以为谁都稀罕当白领儿捏。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-14 15:25

那又有什么关系呢?重要的是一定要公开把界限划得那么清楚吗?一定要划得这么清楚地还真只能搞一搞 professional or business。搞政治好比搞公共关系,你与我分那么清楚,还怎么做公关。
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Post by qinger » 2008-07-14 15:31

小甜甜应该算事业女性吧。
这Obama的漫画画得真传神。
现在偶是胡军的扇子。

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Post by Jun » 2008-07-14 16:09

工人阶级跟Britney Spears 划不清界限的,跟Cindy McCain 那可是天差地别。人家看我们跟虫子似的,要说豪门、统治阶级,嘿,她那个,Mrs. Kerry 那个,才是真豪门呢。 我们想要跟她一伙,人家大概要哈哈大笑了。

2006年,Mrs McCain 的收入是 more than $6 million. 交掉的税是 more than $1.7 million in taxes (注意,算起来是28%,跟中产阶级白领的税率倒是差不多,哈)。人资产还不知多少呢。我如果能分她一粒crumb 都要开心死了。她不是elite么?
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Post by tiffany » 2008-07-14 16:13

人是好命……
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-14 16:17

给人家背后笑几声有什么打紧的。她没跳出来说自己跟工人阶级是不一样的,你这边干吗要先跳出来说自己跟豪门是不一道的?需要斗的时候才斗,没需要的时候为什么自己要把自己摘除来呢。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 17:47

我这不是跟McCain 不是一拨儿的嘛。弄了半天你还没发现我是哪拨的?
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Post by putaopi » 2008-07-14 17:50

小K是最invincible的那拨儿的:Iphone user+Obama supporter。 :lol:

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-14 18:01

我当然知道你是哪拨的,你是supporter 怎么说都没关系。而且显然 Obama Camp 也很聪明地没跳出来。那我跳出来驳斥一下知识分子的书生气也没什么关系。 :frog:
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 18:14

putaopi wrote:小K是最invincible的那拨儿的:Iphone user+Obama supporter。 :lol:
Guilty As Charged. 我就是肤浅的爱赶个进步的时代潮流。。。 :mrgreen:
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Post by putaopi » 2008-07-14 18:31

这种潮流也只能是你这样年轻漂亮的时代女郎赶起来才带劲儿.

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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 18:58

你骂我是金发女郎,我听出来了!不准都跟jun 学坏!
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-14 20:14

TMD, 整晚的新闻都是讨论这事,说啥这个讽刺人民群众看不懂所以不好,四分之一的美国人本来就认为他是穆斯林现在更坚定了。我心说,你们真能添乱!本来才有多少人民群众看new yorker 啊。现在被你们一闹谁都看到了!
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Post by Jun » 2008-07-14 20:36

是啊,连左派纽约人都这么说,那一定是真的喽。
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Post by PRINGLES » 2008-07-15 2:11

连香港的电视新闻都播了这个,而且还是在比较浓缩的午间新闻时段。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-15 14:15

那香港人民是不是也以为他是穆斯林了?
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-15 14:20

现在全世界人民都以为他是穆斯林了,绝倒

反社会的小嘟哝,hunting-witch的时代过去了嘛?还没有呢。
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by Jun » 2008-07-15 14:23

纽约人可真 TMD 聪明了得,Rupert Murdoch 还不赶快把他们买下来替自己服务。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-15 14:24

我正要说,<纽约客>终于成名了!从一个市级杂志一下就走向世界了!
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-15 14:33

严肃的说,take home lesson是决不能在公共场合讲怪话或者嘲笑群众的智力,即使很想……
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by Jun » 2008-07-16 6:30

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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-16 6:35

昨天晚上JS 说,obama 应该赶紧发表声明说:我不是极端穆斯林,所以一点不为这个漫画生气。你知道谁为漫画生气?极端穆斯林! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by Jun » 2008-07-16 6:55

"But one's ironic."

(Me: No, it's just moronic.)

"The sophisticated can spot the difference."

(Me: Sophisticated or pathetic?)
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-16 7:21

为我最喜欢的杂志护短说,虽然不是特别好笑,真正读这杂志的人肯定都能get it ,当然会有很多电视观众不get it, 但是这本来就是才一百万读者的小众读物。

兴奋的说,纽约客这种文学杂志的编辑从来不上电视,这下突然看到几个编辑长什么样挺有意思的,哦,原来Hendrik Hertzberg就是这摸样啊。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-16 9:31

为我最喜欢的杂志护短说
你喜欢的杂志这次因为高估群众的智力get into big troubles了,主编同志大概也懊恼死了。
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-16 9:34

主编才不懊恼,他压根就不target广大人民群众。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-16 9:35

嗯,如果他爱Obama,他就该懊恼。
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-16 9:40

I don't think David Remnick gives a shit. If anything he is thrilled now that the magazine sells record number.
That said, New Yorker is totally pro-Obama from the beginning. Every time you girls gave me a hard time on Fabvalley, I went home crying, curled up in bed and read New Yorker. :verysad:
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-16 9:41

可怜的帅哥……
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by 幻儿 » 2008-07-16 9:42

作为少数族裔竞选公职还真是进退两难:你不能承认自己是穆斯林,可是你也不能太撇清, 否则就得罪了穆斯林选民;你要market自己的黑人身份,但是也不能过分, 因为还要争取那么多非黑人。

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-16 9:46

Every time you girls gave me a hard time on Fabvalley, I went home crying, curled up in bed and read New Yorker.
真可怜啊,最后一块comfort blanket也没了,安慰你一下。 :mrgreen:

Obama最近的外交政策你看了嘛?我都激动地要哭了,心想finally somebody tells the truth in public,但是也知道没什么好下场。
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-16 11:16

Knowing wrote:Every time you girls gave me a hard time on Fabvalley, I went home crying, curled up in bed and read New Yorker. :verysad:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:  我很没有良心的笑了。
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Post by tiffany » 2008-07-16 11:29

笑嘻嘻 wrote:
Knowing wrote:Every time you girls gave me a hard time on Fabvalley, I went home crying, curled up in bed and read New Yorker. :verysad:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:  我很没有良心的笑了。
同没良心的笑⋯⋯
不过话说回来,还是哦巴马选上比较好,买肯。。。。人称回收布什,虽然有点儿mean,但是mean在了点子上。
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Post by putaopi » 2008-07-16 12:40

不看这个我还真没注意到那些细节,比如墙上的画像和壁炉里的美国旗之类的。

小K, OBAMA有狗屎运,这个漫画肯定会被他转化成有利于己的宣传,你先别着急哭 :mrgreen:

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-07-16 12:59

这个漫画肯定会被他转化成有利于己的宣传
我深刻的怀疑一下,如果他真的alpha的借这个机会狠狠打击了Mccain,要么我就爱他算了?
如果是爱,就怎么也不可怕。
只是梦境而已。

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Post by Jun » 2008-07-16 14:00

纽约人到底是在乎还是不在乎销路阿?如果这么曲高和寡,卖得多才不屑吧?

我最烦里面的影评,矫揉造作。

大家如果想继续把自己的钱和儿女后代的钱通过各种渠道转送给石油大亨们,就请投McCain 一票吧。他虽然自家利益在啤酒业,但周围的智囊仍是能源业。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-16 22:15

纽约客的长篇报道和人物报道都写的特别好特别深,很下功夫。
不过我也不看其他杂志,没的比,也许完全是井底之蛙的偏见。
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Post by 快乐轿夫 » 2008-07-18 21:05

是不是以前的恶人谷.好久没来了.....

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Post by karen » 2008-07-18 21:38

我有些幸灾乐祸得觉得这封面很逗。 :-D 他这么坚决否定自己不是穆斯林让人觉得不屑。 一,咋连个笑话都忍不得。 二,就算是穆斯林又怎么样, 他不是一直preaching racial unity嘛?
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